design matters podcasts with debbie millman.

these are just so good most of the time. there are a few which were slightly less interesting, but i've listened to a lot of them, and keep the rest as bonus treats on my ipod. the first couple you listen to you might have to get past ms millman's fawning over the guests, but after you listen to a few you realize that she is not all weird, but genuinely interested and sweet and absolutely great.

she's on voiceamerica or itunes (free on itunes!) definitely worth a listen. the one with milton glaser was fun, start with that.